luther king jr. that i keep on my wall, and i absolutely think that is the case. i am very fortunate that i've been able to devote my career to working on issues that i think matter. i think it matters, um, that there is tremendous human devastation wrought out of unnecessary incarceration in this country. i think it is terrible that we treat children with such punitive measures, um, that we have kind of created -- we've adopted a whole system out of treating children like adults in the system that has, i don't think, produced the kind of public safety outcomes that one would have hoped for. we have a tremendously ineffective system. the bottom line is if the system worked, that would be one thing. but with the recidivism rate we have in this country, we know there are better ways of going about addressing some of the serious problems, sometimes public health problems and other problems that we have. so i would just like to, um, close by saying that to me this is really, um, there's a tremendous oppo